Episode 70: Debt Constrained

This episode of the Matter of Life and Debt podcast features a follow-up interview with Bri Franklin, founder of The Prosp(a)rity Project, a non-profit focused on eliminating student debt for Black women. Bri discusses the…Read more

Episode 69: Three Years!

Co-host Shanna and Talia are joined by Nikki as they celebrate the 3-year anniversary of Matter of Life and Debt! In this special episode, they look back on how the podcast has created community and…Read more

Episode 68: Inside the Debt Release Tool

In this podcast episode, Talia and Nikki discuss The Debt Collective Zine -In The Red: Out of the Darkness. In our spotlight section, Talia chats with Eleni Schirmer and Thomas Gokey about the Debt Collective’s…Read more

Episode 67: Higher Ed For All Coalition

We kick off this episode by discussing the Debt Collectives, “B**** Better Have Our Money” tool, which leverages the legal authority of the 1965 Higher Education Act to demand the Department of Education to cancel…Read more

We will be back soon!

Update: The world of student debt is buzzing, and we can't wait to share what's in store after the Supreme Court decision. Your support means the world to us! Get ready for new episodes coming…Read more

Episode 66: Unmasking the Student Loan Crisis

We’re thrilled to announce the release of a bonus episode featuring special guests Thomas Gokey and Luke Herrine, co-founders of the Debt Collective. Join us as we discuss the broken student loan system. In this…Read more

Episode 65: Flawed Legal Arguments

In this episode, host Nikki Nolan welcomes back Thomas Gokey, co-founder of the Debt Collective, to discuss the challenges and effects of reinstating the student loan payment system. Thomas believes it is impractical to resume…Read more

Episode 64: News, ITT Tech Warriors, & Events

During this episode, our focus is on the latest updates related to student debt. In our spotlight section, we feature Christina Hammond, the creator of the ITT Tech Warriors Facebook group. Our conversation with her…Read more

Episode 63: News, Sweet vs Cardona, & Events

Today's episode features Shanna, Talia, and Nikki delving into the latest student debt news. Our spotlight segment features Alicia Davis and Theresa Sweet, the named plaintiffs in the Sweet v. Cardona case (previously known as…Read more

Episode 62: News, Theatrical Activism, & Events

In this episode, we discuss the current news surrounding student debt. In our new spotlight section, we explore theater activism in-depth with Talia Molé, Dr. Shamell Bell, Alÿcia Bacon, and Todd Squitieri. They delve into…Read more

Podcast Announcement

Exciting news, we will experiment with the podcast in 2023! And we want your input! Call (510) 479-0323 and leave a voicemail with your story or ideas. They may be featured on our show. Our…Read more

Episode 61: Maddy MADlines Clifford

We are excited to have Maddy MADlines Clifford back on the show to share her journey as the Deputy Press Secretary for the Debt Collective. She discusses how her art informs her activism and provides…Read more

Episode 60: 50 Over 50 Debt Strikers

In this week’s episode, we sit with some of the Debt Collective’s 50 Over 50 Strikers, along with Nick Marcil (organizer for the Debt Collective), to challenge the misconception that student debt solely affects society’s…Read more

Episode 59: Ending Higher Education Debt

This week producer Talia Molé and host Shanna Bennett speak with Abigail Acheson, an organizer with Rethinking Economics USA. They discuss new approaches to higher education and economics that prioritize the well-being of people and…Read more

Episode 58: Sweet v. Cardona Victory

This week’s guests, Alicia Davis and Theresa Sweet are named plaintiffs in the case titled Sweet v. Cardona (formerly Sweet v DeVos). They celebrate the lawsuit victory that affects 264,000 borrowers who had pending borrower defense applications as…Read more

Episode 57: Strike: A HarperCollins Story

Kelly Danvers, a member of Local 2110 UAW and the HarperCollins Union, joins Emma and Shanna to discuss the current HarperCollins strike happening in NYC. She shares what it’s like to strike as a student…Read more

Episode 56: Extend the Pause, Joe!

Extend the Pause, Joe! In a re-release episode Matter of Life and Debt producers Emma and Nikki, and host Shanna are on the scene at the Debt Collective’s April 4th Day of Action in Washington,…Read more

Episode 55: Lawsuits Pause Debt Relief

What’s happening with Biden’s Student Debt Cancellation Plan? Shanna Bennett and Talia Molé check in with Sparky Abraham, Legal Strategist for the Debt Collective to find out what’s holding up relief and how we can…Read more

Episode 54: Ryan C. Connelly

This week producer Emma Klauber solo hosts with guest Ryan Connelly, a former opera singer and current Navy musician. Ryan shares the impact of student loans on his music career and his unique intersection of…Read more

Episode 53: Pinned as a Motherf*cker

Comedian, podcaster, and travel show host Jon Gabrus joins producer Emma Klauber and host Shanna Bennett to cathartically scream about student loans. References High and Mighty 101 Places to Party Before You Die Action Boyz…Read more

Episode 52: Matriarchies: Shifting paradigms

Producer Talia Molé joins Shanna for an interview about her student debt experience and how her Ph.D. studies on matriarchies helped her envision a society where education prepares us to be thoughtful community members rather…Read more

Episode 51: River Returns!

Comedian River Butcher returns to talk about Biden’s student loan cancellation plan! He talks to Nikki Nolan, Shanna Bennett, and Emma Klauber about how he is personally affected by the announcement and why it’s great,…Read more

Episode 50: Response to Biden

President Biden announced a student loan debt cancellation of $10K for borrowers making less than $125,000 a year, along with a final extension on the student loan payment pause through December 2022. How are student…Read more

Episode 49: Unions and Debt

This week we’re talking about the power of unions in dealing with debt! Ian Rhodewalt, Eleni Schirmer & Jason Wozniak of the Debt Collective speak to host Shanna about bargaining for the collective good. Reference…Read more

Episode 48: Debtless for All

This week Shanna chats with the team from Debtless, a nonprofit organization that seeks to uplift the communities in need and create a debt cancellation structure that provides much-needed financial relief to people across the…Read more

Episode 47: Life After Debt

Former guest Ashley Strahm returns with big news — she is student debt free! After a viral LinkedIn announcement about paying the last of her student loans, Ashley sits down with Talia Molé to share…Read more

Episode 46: Speaking Out about Student Debt

Public health researcher, recent PA Congressional candidate, and student debt cancellation advocate Alexandra Hunt speaks to host Shanna about the burden of student debt on many like herself. Alexandra spoke up about student debt and…Read more